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		<title>By: One Must Always Be Learning &#124; Educated Nation &#124; Higher Education Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Must Always Be Learning &#124; Educated Nation &#124; Higher Education Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 02:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Murray usually posts here, but the excerpts above are from his piece, I Only Thought I knew My Students, which can be found at Teaching [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ric Murry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric Murry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  

Thank you Barb for asking me to be a guest writer.  For all of you who have responded, thank you so much for your support of Rocio. If her entire story was told, many keyboards would short out from the tears.  She and her family are heroes of mine.  

By the way, I was wrong in one of my pieces of information: Rocio graduated 3rd in her class, not 4th. I knew that. Maybe I just hit the wrong key. :)

I taught one of her brothers a few years ago.  He is now in college.

I have her youngest brother in class this year. He is a good young man. I cannot wait to see what he becomes.

Rocio is planning a trip to Costa Rica in a few weeks to work in a health clinic with FIMRC - Foundation for International Medical Relief of Children. I can&#039;t wait for her to tell my students about that trip. 

One day, I dream of being asked by Rocio to go on a medical/education trip. My wife and are already making plans. I want to learn more from the student who continues to teach me.

Readers, thank you so much for the positive comments.  

~Ric Murry~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  </p>
<p>Thank you Barb for asking me to be a guest writer.  For all of you who have responded, thank you so much for your support of Rocio. If her entire story was told, many keyboards would short out from the tears.  She and her family are heroes of mine.  </p>
<p>By the way, I was wrong in one of my pieces of information: Rocio graduated 3rd in her class, not 4th. I knew that. Maybe I just hit the wrong key. <img src='http://www.teachingvillage.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I taught one of her brothers a few years ago.  He is now in college.</p>
<p>I have her youngest brother in class this year. He is a good young man. I cannot wait to see what he becomes.</p>
<p>Rocio is planning a trip to Costa Rica in a few weeks to work in a health clinic with FIMRC &#8211; Foundation for International Medical Relief of Children. I can&#8217;t wait for her to tell my students about that trip. </p>
<p>One day, I dream of being asked by Rocio to go on a medical/education trip. My wife and are already making plans. I want to learn more from the student who continues to teach me.</p>
<p>Readers, thank you so much for the positive comments.  </p>
<p>~Ric Murry~</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;You Can&#8217;t Be Who You Really Are In Someone Else&#8217;s Language&#8221; &#124; To The Lighthouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;You Can&#8217;t Be Who You Really Are In Someone Else&#8217;s Language&#8221; &#124; To The Lighthouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Most Tweeted Articles by Education Technology Experts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Most Tweeted Articles by Education Technology Experts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  4  Tweets     Ten Ways To Get Beyond Powerpoint With Classroom Projectors             4  Tweets     I Only Thought I Knew My Students (by Ric Murray) &#8211; Teaching Village             4  Tweets     January in Review &#124; Teacher Reboot Camp     January 2010! I started 2010 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Catherine Cabiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Cabiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing your story.  I found myself tearing up as well because all too often we are so busy trying to shove information and content into our students&#039; heads that we don&#039;t realize that we are actually dealing with little humans.  And that they have a voice...feelings...dreams and aspirations.  I think that Rocio&#039;s story is one of triumph and it&#039;s a testament to you and the true teachers out there...who are willing to take the time to get to know his/her students on a different level.  And this is where technology does make a difference because in a class of thirty-six 7th graders it&#039;s darn near impossible to connect with each of them on a daily basis.  But through interactions online via chats, email, twitter, blogs...it&#039;s another platform for interaction.  

And from one middle school history teacher to another...I think we have a pretty cool job with a bunch of great kids.  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing your story.  I found myself tearing up as well because all too often we are so busy trying to shove information and content into our students&#8217; heads that we don&#8217;t realize that we are actually dealing with little humans.  And that they have a voice&#8230;feelings&#8230;dreams and aspirations.  I think that Rocio&#8217;s story is one of triumph and it&#8217;s a testament to you and the true teachers out there&#8230;who are willing to take the time to get to know his/her students on a different level.  And this is where technology does make a difference because in a class of thirty-six 7th graders it&#8217;s darn near impossible to connect with each of them on a daily basis.  But through interactions online via chats, email, twitter, blogs&#8230;it&#8217;s another platform for interaction.  </p>
<p>And from one middle school history teacher to another&#8230;I think we have a pretty cool job with a bunch of great kids.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Do we care what they say? &#124; Not So Distant Future</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do we care what they say? &#124; Not So Distant Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karenne Sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karenne Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golly, I might have to come back I&#039;m so choked up.  But, Barb, I keep doing this through out your series of wonderful posts so am staying to say:  Ric, what a wonderful, emotive, honest account of a real realization so many teachers, especially those who don&#039;t learn their students&#039; languages never experience!

From learning languages myself and knowing this to be true but it&#039;s so hard to explain that, you know, &quot;you&#039;re not you&quot; yet you are &quot;completely you&quot;...  I enjoyed hearing about Rocio and thinking about how our learners touch our lives - usually posts are about how teachers touch our lives, you know - but it&#039;s a two-way street!

Thanks, Barb+Ric+Rocio

Karenne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly, I might have to come back I&#8217;m so choked up.  But, Barb, I keep doing this through out your series of wonderful posts so am staying to say:  Ric, what a wonderful, emotive, honest account of a real realization so many teachers, especially those who don&#8217;t learn their students&#8217; languages never experience!</p>
<p>From learning languages myself and knowing this to be true but it&#8217;s so hard to explain that, you know, &#8220;you&#8217;re not you&#8221; yet you are &#8220;completely you&#8221;&#8230;  I enjoyed hearing about Rocio and thinking about how our learners touch our lives &#8211; usually posts are about how teachers touch our lives, you know &#8211; but it&#8217;s a two-way street!</p>
<p>Thanks, Barb+Ric+Rocio</p>
<p>Karenne</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Ansbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Ansbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ric-
What a great story. Amazing that you made your own learning transparent, that you showed that for teachers, learning must continue. If a teacher isn&#039;t learning with the students, either that teacher isn&#039;t paying attention or is ineffective. You are both an effective and attentive teacher--two qualities of being a great learner, too. I taught English to 11th graders in an urban district with 25% ELL. We read &quot;When I Was Puerto Rican&quot; by Esmeralda Santiago to discuss these issues. While it isn&#039;t appropriate for your students, you might find the memoir confirms the ideas you are exploring.

Rocio-
There&#039;s always another hill--keep going! It&#039;s okay if you walk sometimes, catch your breath, and take in the scenery when the hill just feels too steep--just keep moving.

You are an inspiration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ric-<br />
What a great story. Amazing that you made your own learning transparent, that you showed that for teachers, learning must continue. If a teacher isn&#8217;t learning with the students, either that teacher isn&#8217;t paying attention or is ineffective. You are both an effective and attentive teacher&#8211;two qualities of being a great learner, too. I taught English to 11th graders in an urban district with 25% ELL. We read &#8220;When I Was Puerto Rican&#8221; by Esmeralda Santiago to discuss these issues. While it isn&#8217;t appropriate for your students, you might find the memoir confirms the ideas you are exploring.</p>
<p>Rocio-<br />
There&#8217;s always another hill&#8211;keep going! It&#8217;s okay if you walk sometimes, catch your breath, and take in the scenery when the hill just feels too steep&#8211;just keep moving.</p>
<p>You are an inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ric,

Yes, even from a distance - your student&#039;s comment hit me in the gut like a well placed punch. Important, important reminder.  I enjoyed and appreciate you sharing your &quot;story&quot; very much. It is this that really allows us to develop professionally - more so than the normal skills and bricks and mortar things of teaching. 

I really think we have to allow students to learn through their own &quot;eyes, ears, bodies&quot; more. I&#039;ve had it with the all knowing &quot;teacher&quot; stuff and curriculum that is designed in code. Especially with language, we need to allow students to &quot;create the content&quot; . I call it SCC - student created content. Everything students use to foster language learning comes from their world, the real world and incorporates their language (and a language isn&#039;t just Spanish/English but how they read the world, their &quot;thought&quot; that informs action). I guess I&#039;ll have to write the book -- it is not that halfway house called, student centered learning,  but something different. 

I just wish we had more opportunity to work from their end of things..... 

After I graduated teacher&#039;s college, my mentor and former coach/geography teacher took me for a walk. He said he had one thing to tell me about teaching. He said, the worst thing about teaching was always saying good - bye. That students came and went, came and went. Dust in the wind. He said, if you are going to be a teacher - get used to that... so I hear you about wanting to work longer with one group. However, there is always an end I think and like love, a lot can happen in a flash or over a long period of time. Just depends. 

Rocio,

Please keep running! Up and down and even around hills! I believe like you, that we are blessed as teachers and teaching is a vocation more than a pay check and job.  I was listening to this MLK Jr. speech today - he says it much better.... http://www.thekingcenter.org/DrumMajor.swf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ric,</p>
<p>Yes, even from a distance &#8211; your student&#8217;s comment hit me in the gut like a well placed punch. Important, important reminder.  I enjoyed and appreciate you sharing your &#8220;story&#8221; very much. It is this that really allows us to develop professionally &#8211; more so than the normal skills and bricks and mortar things of teaching. </p>
<p>I really think we have to allow students to learn through their own &#8220;eyes, ears, bodies&#8221; more. I&#8217;ve had it with the all knowing &#8220;teacher&#8221; stuff and curriculum that is designed in code. Especially with language, we need to allow students to &#8220;create the content&#8221; . I call it SCC &#8211; student created content. Everything students use to foster language learning comes from their world, the real world and incorporates their language (and a language isn&#8217;t just Spanish/English but how they read the world, their &#8220;thought&#8221; that informs action). I guess I&#8217;ll have to write the book &#8212; it is not that halfway house called, student centered learning,  but something different. </p>
<p>I just wish we had more opportunity to work from their end of things&#8230;.. </p>
<p>After I graduated teacher&#8217;s college, my mentor and former coach/geography teacher took me for a walk. He said he had one thing to tell me about teaching. He said, the worst thing about teaching was always saying good &#8211; bye. That students came and went, came and went. Dust in the wind. He said, if you are going to be a teacher &#8211; get used to that&#8230; so I hear you about wanting to work longer with one group. However, there is always an end I think and like love, a lot can happen in a flash or over a long period of time. Just depends. </p>
<p>Rocio,</p>
<p>Please keep running! Up and down and even around hills! I believe like you, that we are blessed as teachers and teaching is a vocation more than a pay check and job.  I was listening to this MLK Jr. speech today &#8211; he says it much better&#8230;. <a href="http://www.thekingcenter.org/DrumMajor.swf" rel="nofollow">http://www.thekingcenter.org/DrumMajor.swf</a></p>
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